Building Confidence In Your Call As a Christian Therapist In a Secular World

Camille McDaniel (00:03.81)
Welcome back, everyone. Welcome back. And for everyone who is new, it’s wonderful to have you on this journey. Today, I’m excited to be talking to and to introduce to you Dominique Russell. She’s a licensed clinical professional counselor, certified life coach, author, and she specializes in Christian-based therapy.

Dominique earned her bachelor’s of science in psychology from Bradley University and her master’s of arts in counseling from North Park University. For seven years, she’s practiced both traditional and Christian counseling, and she’s the founder of Mind of Christ Life Counseling, PLLC, a private practice where she helps Christian women struggling with anxiety, depression, and life transitions.

And through her work, she helps clients reframe negative thoughts, develop Christ’s mindset for their lives, and build confidence in themselves and their journeys. Beyond counseling, Dominique also coaches current and aspiring Christian-based therapists through her business, Mind of Christ Coaching. She helps them overcome imposter syndrome, build confidence, and invite the Holy Spirit to be their partner in therapy.

creating more spaces for Christian based therapists in the field. And when she’s not working, Dominique enjoys singing and composing, producing music, reading, watching documentaries and spending time with her husband and their dog. Dominique, welcome to the podcast.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (01:46.956)
Thank you so much, Camille. I’m so happy to be here. Hi, everyone.

Camille McDaniel (01:51.374)
Absolutely. And we’re going to be conversing today on the idea, the topic of building confidence in your call as a Christian therapist in a secular world, which I thought this is a really awesome topic and a really great focus that you’re going to be chatting with me on today. So we’re going to kind of…

I guess dive right in, starting with an explanation just for those who might be newer to all of this and wanting to know more. What is it to, what does it mean to be a Christian therapist?

Dominique Russell, LCPC (02:31.414)
Yes, so I really love this question and it’s something that I always think about. So really in my definition and what I’ve come to learn is that being a Christian therapist really just means being appointed by God just to help navigate my clients closer to Him and closer to His will for their lives. And really the way that God began to explain it to me was as if, you know, we’re being

an intercessor of sorts for our clients. Like we’re being a bridge to help get them to where they currently are, to where he wants them to be. So it’s being a person and being a therapist that hears from the Holy Spirit and are able to help guide my clients really to where he wants them to be in their lives, helping them to just make sense of what they’re currently struggling with. So it’s a very, you know, deep, just calling for me.

Camille McDaniel (03:26.094)
Okay, and we want to we want to really be able to honor that calling right, but I know for sure I’ve heard other Christian therapists talk about this who might even be a little bit newer to the field or who have gotten their training in spaces that were secular even though they have a following of Christ a belief in Christ and so Kind of how do you even build confidence? What would you say are some of the things that can contribute to us positively?

Dominique Russell, LCPC (03:30.656)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (03:38.944)
Mm-hmm

Camille McDaniel (03:56.078)
building confidence in our being a Christian counselor, especially in the early stages of our career.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (04:00.852)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, I definitely think that it’s really about just canceling just the lies and the doubts. I think that’s such a big factor. And something that I even struggled with in the beginning is just really kind of battling, like, am I a good fit to be a therapist? Can I really just sit here and hold this space for my clients?

and really just canceling those lies and saying, yeah, I can do it. Even though I have gone to school and I’ve trained traditionally like what you just mentioned, but even with that, knowing that my relationship with God also helps to pave the way for that. And it helps to give me clarity when it comes to guiding my clients. So really it’s just canceling lies and really doing a lot of positive self-talk and canceling the negative.

self-talk and also just learning how to embrace my strengths and my weaknesses. I think that was a really big thing. Realizing that I’m not going to be, you know, well-versed in everything, but there are obvious areas where I’m really strong and God bringing that to the surface for me and really just focusing on honing in on those strengths and just accepting my weaknesses, accepting where I’m not the most competent and just saying, okay.

You know, I’m gonna just go where God is leading me and embrace who I am, just develop my own identity in this space.

Camille McDaniel (05:31.96)
That’s okay. So there’s a couple of things that you mentioned. I’m like, yeah, that’s spot on. First of all, being able to lean on what the Lord has told you to do and being able to recognize that it’s like, wait a minute, I belong here because God told me and gifted me and appointed me to do this very thing. So let me not even feed into what I might be hearing around me that I shouldn’t be doing this or I shouldn’t be doing it in this way, which kind of.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (05:34.338)
Mm-hmm

Dominique Russell, LCPC (05:41.814)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (05:49.803)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (05:58.114)
Mmm.

Camille McDaniel (05:59.884)
made me think when you were saying, you know, just canceling the lies, the lies. And one of the lies, and even if it’s unintentionally told, is that, you know, you’re not supposed to be bringing your faith into the counseling space. Like this is not about you. You shouldn’t be operating as a Christian. That is unethical. That is putting something on your clients. And that’s actually not true, I find. But I mean, you know, I wonder how many other individuals have heard it’s unethical.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (06:02.901)
Yes.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (06:12.819)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (06:17.323)
Mm-hmm.

Camille McDaniel (06:29.046)
to actually bring your faith into the counseling room. Instead for me, as a licensed professional counselor, our ethical code actually does not say that, but it does say you cannot force your faith or push your faith onto someone, but to fully inform someone on the onset in the beginning to let them know this is how I practice, this is who I am, this is how it operates within the practice and the skills that I help people with or the treatment that I deliver.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (06:44.309)
Yes.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (06:50.369)
Mm-hmm.

Camille McDaniel (06:59.394)
That’s totally about informed consent. But is that something that you had ever heard before that it’s unethical to kind of practice as a Christian counselor, you should not bring that into the room with you?

Dominique Russell, LCPC (07:02.144)
Yeah.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (07:11.038)
Yes, absolutely. I’ve heard that a lot and especially even like on social media. I mean, I’ve seen so many conversations that people have where, you know, they’re so against, you know, Christian therapists, like therapists who come out and say that I do this specific type of therapy because, you know, in my opinion and just from what I’ve learned, like there’s a difference between a therapist who’s a Christian and a Christian therapist. And I think

Camille McDaniel (07:36.974)
Okay.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (07:40.47)
you know, people get that mixed up and I think they lump both of those together and just say, you shouldn’t be pushing your faith onto people. that’s unethical. But if I am intentionally saying that I’m a Christian therapist and I’m saying that this is my specialty, like this is the area that I’m coming into and I’m doing this type of counseling, which means the Holy Spirit is fully in the process of this counseling process. And I’m not just a regular traditional therapist.

who happens to be a Christian, and if my clients, you know, happen to bring faith into their therapy session or mention God, then it’s like, okay, yeah, I’m a believer, or can I say that? Or, you know, it’s a lot more tiptoe-y, and you feel a lot more, you know, nervous about even bringing that up. But if you intentionally say, like, I’m a Christian therapist, then you are coming out the door and saying, this is what I do, this is my specialty. So you know when you come to me, this is what you’re getting.

Camille McDaniel (08:39.086)
Okay, that’s exactly kind of like I’m tracking them with you because I’ve kind of seen the same thing and I’ve wondered about like, okay, I wonder how everybody else has taken it if they’ve heard some similar things like that or seen similar things like that online. So then when it comes to like the balance or I guess I’d say maybe like the tension that sometimes can occur when we’re talking about our faith.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (08:40.278)
Mm-hmm.

Camille McDaniel (09:06.836)
as followers of Christ and then the clinical skills and the training that we get. How do you balance the two? So that it gives you, I guess, the best results in a therapy session and so that there is no conflict when you are administering these counseling treatments with your faith and walk with God.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (09:30.57)
Yeah, I think that’s a really good question. I think I’ve really learned to balance the tension by just determining what each of my clients need because it’s really different, you know, based on each client. like there are certain clients who are coming in and they’re like, I really just want, you know, full blown, know, biblically based, you know, type of counseling. Like this is what I want. And then there are other clients who find, you know, helpful.

things when it comes to some of the traditional base counseling techniques and practices. So I have no problem with integrating that with faith. And I do that a lot because I’ve also found that there are a lot of just traditional modalities, like for instance, like CBT and DBT, a lot of those have scriptures to kind of back up the whole nature of those modalities. So.

I’m able to bring that into the therapy space and really explain that to clients and say, okay, yeah, know, regulating your mind and reframing negative thoughts into positive thoughts like this coincides with what scripture says about, you know, submitting our thoughts, making it obedient to Christ. So I really just, you know, I kind of use the client’s reporting of what they need. And I also just, you know, seek the Holy Spirit for the sermon about what’s needed in the therapy space with each individual client.

So that’s really how I balance it. I’m very open with my clients and asking like, what do they need? You know, what do you want to see more of? You know, and even just getting feedback. Like, what did you think about this session? What are your takeaways? what do you want? You know, just what do you want more of? So really just checking in to make sure that, you know, I’m not, you know, kind of pushing them more so in one direction and they don’t want to go there. Yeah.

Camille McDaniel (11:21.934)
Yeah, that’s also that’s always good because it’s incorporating the client and their own journey and experience and we want to make sure we have their buy-in into their experience. Absolutely. So then for for counselors who are who are like, okay, I hear this I’m tracking with you. This is this is resonating with me, but they are still struggling to confidently embrace their faith within secular spaces because

Dominique Russell, LCPC (11:26.53)
Yeah.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (11:34.145)
Yeah.

Camille McDaniel (11:50.444)
Because it can be overwhelming, right? And I say that because I’ve seen and been in multiple spaces where, as you had talked about earlier, some people have maybe had experiences with Christians or with Christian counselors or with Christian counseling, whatever it may be, or some other thing that just caused them to feel negatively about Christians in general. And they have voiced it.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (12:05.612)
Mm.

Camille McDaniel (12:18.69)
you know, very clearly how they felt about that. And so that can cause people to want to shrink back when it comes to sharing that. But is there anything that you usually will talk to when you happen to be coaching people or when you happen to be talking to other therapists, like to help them be confident in embracing their faith in secular spaces?

Dominique Russell, LCPC (12:19.18)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (12:26.326)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (12:38.154)
Yeah, definitely. I definitely encourage them to just remember that first of all, as Christians, we are called to be set apart. So that’s first and foremost. I really always start there and I say, as a Christian, whatever space you go into, you’re called to be set apart. You you’re going to be different. And so when you’re coming into the therapeutic space, you want to have that same mindset where it’s like, you know, if I’m a Christian therapist and I want to do this,

I’m gonna be set apart. And so I’m not gonna do things the same way as other clinicians. Like this process is gonna look different. And so I really just encourage other therapists that just embracing that notion of being set apart and knowing that things are gonna look different. And even if you don’t feel 100 % confident when you get started, it’s like making that first step of faith is so big.

And that’s something that I really had to learn. Like I was waiting for so long to feel confident and feel like I can do this, but you’re not gonna always feel it. You’re not gonna always feel it, but sometimes you have to just take that first step of faith and then God meets you, especially if he’s put it in your heart and he’s telling you, I want you to do this work and I’m calling you to go into this area.

Camille McDaniel (13:42.039)
Okay.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (13:55.958)
He’s gonna meet you. He’s not gonna leave you hanging. He’s not gonna just leave you to just figure it all out by yourself. He’s gonna meet you and continue to bring you every step of the way. So I really would say just taking that first step of faith.

Camille McDaniel (14:10.712)
Okay, and then what about for the clients? And I don’t know that a lot of people who are like counseling clients might listen and maybe they do because we are on several different platforms, but for the clients, because I’ve actually had multiple people over the years that I’ve been in practice not know that they could actually have a counseling experience that incorporates their Christian faith. So for someone who is starting therapy and they’re even just considering

Dominique Russell, LCPC (14:33.804)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Camille McDaniel (14:40.556)
you know, integrating their faith, you know, what would you say to encourage them to move forward? How would you explain or, you know, help them out?

Dominique Russell, LCPC (14:45.826)
Yeah.

Yeah, I definitely would say really advocating for yourself. Like if you know that I want to do this type of counseling, really coming in and letting the different therapists know, whoever you have consultations with, and maybe you’re going on their profiles and you’re seeing maybe they have in their bio or in their name, like I do Christian counseling or I’m a Christian based therapist, making sure you ask questions about what that looks like and how they integrate the faith.

their faith into therapy. That’s so important. And the reason why I say that is because I’ve personally had clients come to me and say that I’ve gone to other therapists who have had, I’m a Christian therapist in their bio or on their website. And then when they ask them to explain that, they can’t explain it. They literally don’t know how to explain what that process looks like. So that is a really big indicator.

if you are with the right person. So really just advocating and saying like, this is what I’m looking for. I want this type of therapy experience. How do you integrate that? Like, how do you do that? So really my biggest advice is just asking and advocating, really being honest about what you need and letting the different therapists know. And if they can do it, that’s great. But if they can’t, then that’s maybe not a good fit and you just have to keep looking.

Camille McDaniel (16:12.59)
Okay, and then so I’m even hearing as you’re sharing that there’s kind of like more than one answer actually there’s an answer for a therapist. So for us as therapists in the field. I’m hearing you talk about how some people have said I went to this Christian counselor or I had a consultation. They didn’t know how to explain what I was going to get. So that’s

Dominique Russell, LCPC (16:35.02)
Mm-hmm.

Camille McDaniel (16:36.81)
One thing is we have to know, and I guess in being confident, we have to know how to explain what we do.

We have to know how to be able to present that to anybody who may want to know. And so we got to get confident in that. And then for someone who is seeking counseling, then I hear your other, you know, your other answer is for them to move forward confidently, advocate for yourself. If that’s something that’s important in your personal life, you don’t have to put it on the shelf when you come into the counseling room. Take it right on with you and just ask questions to make sure you know exactly what you’re going to be getting.

Yeah, that’s important. That’s good. That message for us as therapists, that’s also something we got to be able to share exactly what it is that we do and how we do it so that people who are looking for us can find us. Yeah, absolutely. And then what about community? Because I know, you know, that’s another thing, you know, kind of

Dominique Russell, LCPC (17:15.618)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (17:23.126)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (17:31.338)
Yes.

Camille McDaniel (17:38.88)
sometimes we can operate and it’s like, you know, it’s just us and the Holy Spirit and it’s speaking to us and but community is also powerful and that’s biblical, you know, community coming together. And so what would you say, you know, to other therapists who may maybe they shy away from it. They’re not comfortable all the way and how, you know, kind of be bold in their faith walk and they haven’t really also kind of gathered community around them to to help sharpen their their their skills and their walk.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (17:55.98)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (18:09.088)
Yeah, you know, and I totally understand that because it is hard to even step out. And this is a big step, you know, really coming out and saying that you’re a Christian based therapist, especially in a secular world is very just, it’s a really, you know, powerful thing, but it’s also very risky because we know overall how the world looks at Christians in general. So it’s already enough, you know, for going through that, but.

to come out and say, I’m doing this type of therapy. you know, I really think understanding that when you are able to draw on community, you are able to really further just prove that there is an understanding, you know, and there is just, there’s growth that’s happening in this type of therapy that we do and knowing that you’re not alone.

right, knowing that you’re not the only one that’s doing this. And it also just encourages and proves that God is really the missing piece when it comes to gaining just true understanding of our thoughts, our feelings, our emotions. And that’s the whole reason we do this is that even though a lot of us have been traditionally trained, we understand that, you know, this can’t just be the only way, right? We have to bring God into the center.

And so when you get around other people who have that same like-mindedness, it really helps, you know, overall to build your confidence and know like, wait, I can do this. Like, I’m not alone, you know, with this. There are so many other people who want to do this or who are already doing it. I just have to, you know, get in and find my place because there is a place for you.

Camille McDaniel (19:41.59)
Yes.

Camille McDaniel (19:54.798)
That’s awesome. Let me ask, and I should have asked this earlier, but I just jumped right on in. And then as you’re sharing, I’m like, I wonder what got her started. So like, what got you even, you know, jumping into using your faith and showing up so boldly, whether in your counseling practice or in your coaching for others? Yeah, what even kind of led to you getting to this point?

Dominique Russell, LCPC (19:55.649)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (20:22.978)
well to make a long story short. It’s okay. No, it’s perfectly fine. No, honestly, know, God, well, God called me to be a therapist. actually had a…

Camille McDaniel (20:25.326)
I’m just bringing that kind of at end like so.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (20:39.667)
encounter, a really powerful encounter with him in my senior year of college. And that was really when he let me know that he wanted me to be a therapist, because I had no clue that I was going to do therapy. I was going to go to law school. Like I majored in psychology to go to law school. And so, Yes.

Camille McDaniel (20:54.638)
Thanks

Camille McDaniel (21:01.474)
Wow. Okay. You’re in a, you’re on a whole nother track. You were not even, okay. Okay.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (21:07.601)
A whole different track, you know, and I’m still shocked by it because I’m just like, what? Like, this is what you want me to do, Lord? And so with that, you know, I enrolled in grad school and just began, you know, going down this journey and I never looked back. was like I was a light bulb just went off for me. So even just started in that way. But I always knew that I was going to be doing work with Christian women.

So that was always a given for me that I’m gonna be working with Christian women, but I had no clue that it was gonna be through counseling until the Lord gave me that revelation. And so I started out traditionally and then I began to just really be seeking God. And he just gave me the confidence to say, okay, you can step out and do this now. And so…

I really started putting myself out there and saying, okay, I do Christian based therapy. And I really started doing this about four years ago at a group practice that I was working for where I was the only, really the only Christian therapist at that practice. Cause it wasn’t a Christian practice. It was like a regular traditional base practice. And I kind of like, you know, not saying that I changed things up, but by me stepping forward and saying, okay, I…

I know what I’m called to do. I can’t just play it safe anymore. I’m like, I’m going to step forward and say, I am a Christian therapist. And I started getting clients looking for that saying, I’ve been looking for you. I’ve been, you know, looking for this type of therapy. Like, I, you know, I want this. And so that really showed me that if people don’t know you exist, you know what I’m saying? How many people aren’t being helped by you not stepping forward?

Camille McDaniel (22:29.41)
Yes.

Camille McDaniel (22:40.28)
you

Camille McDaniel (22:46.188)
Yes.

Camille McDaniel (22:51.458)
What? Mm-hmm.

part, that part, because people will then say, I guess it’s not a market for that. That’s fine. And then it leads to them saying for themselves, well, that’s OK. I can separate that. I can get that somewhere else. But I really think if we we kind of dive even a little bit deeper into just that alone, not being bold and stepping forward as the Father asks us to or playing it safe.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (23:00.023)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (23:09.867)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (23:21.421)
Mmm.

Camille McDaniel (23:23.298)
then can have a ripple effect that causes other people to say, well, that’s all right. I don’t really need my faith in everything that I do because I can go ahead and get my faith somewhere else. But what we do as therapists, mental health professionals is really something more important than sometimes we give, I think, credit to because you are working with someone’s mind. And so you have, whether you look at it or not, you have influence.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (23:33.354)
Yes.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (23:45.165)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (23:50.656)
Yes.

Camille McDaniel (23:50.892)
And we have to be careful how we are influencing individuals. And individuals have to be careful how they’re being influenced. So you don’t want to be able to sit in front of me if I happen to be in any way causing you to think contrary to the way that you have chosen to walk this life path. You want to find someone who is in alignment.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (23:59.245)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (24:09.815)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (24:14.101)
Yes.

Mm-hmm

Camille McDaniel (24:17.632)
and who is going to help you in accordance with what is so important in your life. Like you said, when you stepped forward and there was like more people were like, my goodness, you’re here. And I have also seen people do that, experienced people doing that. And so that’s phenomenal. Thank you for sharing that with us. Even though I snuck that in at the end, but thank you for sharing that with us.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (24:23.499)
Yes.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (24:28.268)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (24:37.577)
Yes. It’s okay.

Camille McDaniel (24:43.406)
Well, that’s powerful. I love that. That’s a testimony right in itself, just being able to step forward, step boldly, especially when you were like the only one. So you’re in a crisis and you’re up here stepping forward and everybody else is not doing what you’re doing. you know, that takes courage. So I’m glad that you took that step. Well, tell us, and I know we’re toward the end of our time together today, but can you share with everybody how they might find you? Because I know that you actually, like you

Dominique Russell, LCPC (24:52.64)
Yeah

Mm-hmm. Mm-mm. Yes.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (25:11.021)
Mm-hmm.

Camille McDaniel (25:12.834)
like we talked about earlier, you do have a practice, you do have coaching where you help other Christian therapists, and you are on social media. So can you please share? Share all the things that you want us to know.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (25:16.812)
Mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (25:22.977)
Yes.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (25:27.533)
Yes, of course. So I am in quite a few places. So on social media, I have two different Instagrams. So I have one for my practice and that’s Undermind of Christ Life Counseling PLLC. So yeah, the whole practice name is my Instagram handle. And then for coaching is Undermind of Christ Coaching. So I separated them because I used to run them both under one profile, but it just got to be too much. I’m like, mm-mm.

Camille McDaniel (25:31.264)
Yeah.

Camille McDaniel (25:52.802)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (25:53.855)
I need some organization and just sanity for my mind and it works. I’m like, thank you Lord. So I separated them. So everything, you know, as far as like encouragement and tips for Christian based therapist, all of that is under Mind of Christ Coaching Instagram. And then I have a Facebook where it’s, you know, mostly for the practice, but I put it for coaching as well. It’s called Mind of Christ Life Counseling and Coaching. So that’s where I am.

Camille McDaniel (25:56.6)
separate.

Is it?

Dominique Russell, LCPC (26:21.951)
And then I actually also have a sub stack. So if anyone is on sub stack, I just started one and it’s called Dear Christian Therapist. And so with that, I’m gonna be writing and I’m gonna be kind of doing a little bit of a podcast sort of thing. And that’s really just more of an intimate space for you to interact with me and for us to talk about different things as well. And I also have a Facebook group.

for Christian based therapists that I’ve had for maybe like three months, it’s called Christian Therapist Fellowship Network. And so that’s really another space for Christian based therapists. I feel like we can never have enough spaces. I know Camille, you have a group and I know other people have groups and I’m like, we need more, however many, the more the merrier, right? And so, yes, so I am, that’s where you can find me on social media.

Camille McDaniel (27:08.947)
is we do. Absolutely.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (27:17.493)
And then if you would like to work with me, if you’re a current or aspiring Christian based therapist and you wanna work one-on-one with me, you can visit my website, mindofchristcoaching.com. Or if you go on my socials, you’ll find a link with all of the services that I offer and different things that I have. I do also have a free mini course that I actually made speaking what we were talking about, just about how to…

convert 95 % of your Christian therapy consults into clients. So I do a mini course actually walking you through how to have a consultation with clients, how to explain how you integrate your faith with therapy and what that looks like. So I literally walk you through the steps and I give you challenges and takeaways so you can feel more confident and be able to bring in more clients that align with the type of work that you want to do. Okay? Yes.

Camille McDaniel (28:13.274)
Awesome. And we will have all of that for sure on the Christ in Private Practice blog page so that you can get all the links. And that will definitely also be in the show notes so everybody can connect with Dominique and support all the good work that she’s doing. Yeah, that’s awesome. Thank you so much for coming on, for sharing, for giving us that encouragement, the word and your testimony. Thank you so much.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (28:33.229)
Thank you. Yes, thank you.

Dominique Russell, LCPC (28:42.835)
Yes, thank you. Thank you all.

CPP Ep. 33 Building Confidence In Your Call As a Christian Therapist In a Secular World